Yale Center for British Art

Creator:
George Romney, 1734–1802, British
Title:
A Conversation (The Artist's Brothers Peter and James Romney)
Date:
1766
Materials & Techniques:
Oil on canvas
Dimensions:
43 1/2 × 34 1/2 inches (110.5 × 87.6 cm)
Credit Line:
Yale Center for British Art, Paul Mellon Collection
Copyright Status:
Public Domain
Accession Number:
B1981.25.537
Classification:
Paintings
Collection:
Paintings and Sculpture
Subject Terms:
buckles | fireplace | men | brothers | drafting | artists | breeches (trousers) | shoes (footwear) | waistcoats | coats | drapes | chair | easel | table, drafting | table (support furniture) | conversation piece | sculptures | busts | portrait | genre subject
Currently On View:
Not on view
Exhibition History:
Art in Focus : John Flaxman Modeling Bust of William Hayley (Yale Center for British Art, 2010-02-04 - 2010-05-30)

George Romney (1734-1802) (Walker Art Gallery, 2002-02-07 - 2002-04-28)

George Romney (1734-1802) (National Portrait Gallery, 2002-05-30 - 2002-08-18)

George Romney (1734-1802) (The Huntington Library, Art Collections, and Botanical Gardens, 2002-09-15 - 2002-12-01)

This Other Eden : British Paintings from the Paul Mellon Collection at Yale (Art Gallery of New South Wales, 1998-05-01 - 1998-07-05)

This Other Eden : British Paintings from the Paul Mellon Collection at Yale (Queensland Art Gallery, 1998-07-15 - 1998-09-06)

This Other Eden : British Paintings from the Paul Mellon Collection at Yale (Art Gallery of South Australia, 1998-09-16 - 1998-11-15)

Painting in England 1700-1850 - From The Collection of Mr. and Mrs. Paul Mellon (Yale University Art Gallery, 1965-04-15 - 1965-06-20)
Publications:
Elizabeth E. Barker, George Romney's Early Candlelight Pictures, Transactions of the Romney Society, vol. 5, 2000, pp.9, 30, , pl. 2, NJ18 R65 T7 2000 (YCBA)

David Brenneman, Romney Paintings in the Yale Center for British Art, Transactions of the Romney Society, vol. 1, 1996, pp. 16, 17, NJ18 R65 T7 1996 (YCBA)

Arthur Bensley Chamberlain, George Romney, Methuen & co., ltd., London, 1910, pp. 51, 229, 383, NJ18 R65 C43 (YCBA)

Christie's sale catalogue : Catalogue of Pictures of George Romney ... the Property of Miss Romney ... : 24-25 May 1894, Christie's, Christie, Manson & Woods, London, May 24 - 25, 1894, p. 18, lot. no. 192, Art Sales Catalogues Online

Christie's sale catalogue : Catalogue of the valuable collection of ancient and modern pictures : 9 May 1896, Christie's, Christie, Manson & Woods, London, May 9, 1896, p. 37, Lot 148, Fiche B51 (YCBA) Also available online : Art Sales Catalogues Online = Lugt # 54420

Malcolm Cormack, Concise Catalogue of Paintings in the Yale Center for British Art, Yale Center for British Art, New Haven, CT, 1985, pp. 190-191, N590.2 .A83 (YCBA)

David A. Cross, A striking likeness, the life of George Romney , Ashgate Publishing, Aldershot, England Brookfield, VT, 2000, pp. 41-2, fig. 7, NJ18 R65 C76 2000 (YCBA)

Ellen G. D'Oench, The Conversation Piece: Arthur Devis & his contemporaries, , Yale Center for British Art, New Haven, 1980, pp. 27-28, NJ18 D5151 D64 OVERSIZE

Yvonne Romney Dixon, Romney Sketchbooks in Public Collections, Transactions of the Romney Society, vol. 8, 2003, p.36, no. 33, NJ18 R65 T7 2003 (YCBA)

Yvonne Romney Dixon, The Kendal sketchbook 1763-71, Transactions of the Romney Society, vol. 15, 2011, Part 1, p. 16, p. 28; Part 2, p. 1, NJ18.R65 T7 2010-2011 (YCBA)

Exhibition of British art, c. 1000-1860 : full catalogue [of the Winter Exhibition held on January 6-March 10, 1934], , , Royal Academy of Arts, London, 1934, p. 111, no. 259, N6761 L65 (YCBA)

Free Society of Artists, A catalogue of the paintings, sculptures, architecture, models, drawings, engravings &c. now exhibiting by the artists, associated for the relief their distresed brethren, their widows, and children, at Mr. Moreing's Great-Room, in Maiden-Lane, Covent-Ga, Catalogue of the Free Society of Artists, London, 1766, p. 10, no. 144, N5055 S62 C3 1760A (YCBA) Also available on line In 18th century Collection Online data base

Hilda Gamlin, George Romney and his art, The Macmillan Company, London; New York, 1894, p. 39, J18 R666 894G (SML)

Catherine M. Gordon, British paintings Hogarth to Turner, Frederick Warne, London, 1981, p. 60, ND466 .G67 (YCBA)

Lucinda Hawksley, Fifty British Artists You Should Know, Prestel, Munich : New York, NY, 2011, pp. 36-37, N6796 .H39 2011 (YCBA)

Alex Kidson, George Romney : a complete catalogue of his paintings, The Paul Mellon Centre for Studies in British Art, New Haven, 2015, v. 2, pp. 505-06, cat. no. 1127, col. pl. 1127, NJ18.R65 A12 +K54 2015 v.1-3 (YCBA)

Alex Kidson, George Romney, 1734-1802, National Portrait Gallery, London, 2002, pp. 3-4, 60-61, no. 15, NJ18 R65 K53 2002 (YCBA)

Alex Kidson, Those delightful regions of imagination, essays on George Romney , no. 9, Yale University Press, New Haven, London, 2002, pp. 161-64, 168; p. 191, fig. 58, NJ18 R65 T57 2002 (YCBA)

B. E. Maclean-Eltham, George Romney : Paintings in public collections, , The Romney Society, Kendal, Cumbria, England, 1996, p. 50, NJ18 R65 M33 1996

Todd Magreta, George Romney's Late Portrait Groups at Abbot Hall and Yale, British Art Journal, vol. VIII, Autumn 2007, p. 63,64, fig. 4, N6761 B74 + (YCBA) Also available online (ORBIS)

Julia Marciari-Alexander, This other Eden : Paintings from the Yale Center for British Art, , Yale Center for British Art, New Haven, CT, 1998, p. 56, no. 16, ND1314.3 Y36 1998 (YCBA)

Arthur S. Marks, Private and Public in The Peale Family, Charles Willson Peale as Pater and Painter , Proceedings of the American Philosophical Society, 156, no. 2, American Philosophical Society, Philadelphia, June 2012, pp. 143-44, fig. 11, Online see ORBIS Misc Open Access E-Journals Hard copy also available : A53p 375 (SML)

Sir Herbert Maxwell, George Romney ; illustrated with twenty plates and a photogravure portrait as frontispiece, Walter Scott Publishing Co., Ltd., 1902, p. 174, no. 79, WB 20052 (LSF) Copy of London edition is also available : Baskin 494 (BRBL)

Painting in England 1700-1850 : collection of Mr. & Mrs. Paul Mellon : Exhibition at the Virginia Museum of Fine Arts, , , Virginia Museum of Fine Arts, Richmond, VA, 1963, p. 134 (v.1), no. 254, pl. 158, ND466 V57 v.1-2 (YCBA)

Painting in England 1700-1850 from the Collection of Mr. and Mrs. Paul Mellon, The Royal Academy of Arts Winter Exhibition 1964-65., , Royal Academy of Arts, London, UK, 1964, p. 67 (v.1), no. 243, N5220.M45 R69 1964 (YCBA)

George Paston, George Romney ... With forty illustrations, Methuen & co., ltd., London, 1903, pp34-35, 190, WA 7718 (LSF)

Paul Mellon's Legacy : a passion for British art [large print labels], , Yale Center for British Art, New Haven, CT, 2007, v. 3, N5220 M552 P381 2007 OVERSIZE (YCBA)

Portland Art Museum, Paintings from the collection of Walter P. Chrysler, Jr., an exhibition organized 1956 by the Portland Art Museum, Portland, Oregon. , Portland Art Association, Portland, 1956, pp. 24, 72, no. 19, fig. 19, J495 C468 956P (LSF)

Susan Rather, A Painter's Progess: Matthew Pratt and 'The American School', Metropolitan Museum Journal, vol. 28, 1993, pp. 173-74, fig. 7, Available online (ORBIS) Also available in hardcopy: N610 A725 (LC)+ Oversize (HAAS)

Susan Rather, The American school : artists and status in the late-colonial and early national era, Yale University Press, New Haven, 2016, pp. 115-116, 117, fig. 96, N6507 .R38 2016 (YCBA)

Gerhard Charles Rump, George Romney (1734-1802), Zur Bildformder Bürgerlichen Mitte in der Englischen neoklassik , vol. 1, George Olms Verlag, Hildesheim, 1974, v. 1, pp. 93-95; v. 2, abb. 39, Abb. 39, NJ18 R65 R85 1 (YCBA)

Roy C. Strong, The British portrait, 1660-1960, Antique Collectors' Club, Woodbridge, Suffolk, 1991, pp. 226, 227, pl. 210, ND1314 B743 1991 (YCBA)

Ellis Waterhouse, Painting in Britain, 1530 to 1790, Yale University Press, New Haven London, 1994, p. 307, fig. 240, ND464 W37 1994 (YCBA)

Richard Wendorf, The literature of collecting & other essays, Boston Athenaeum and Oak Knoll Press, Boston, MA New Castle, DE, 2008, pp. 150-1, fig. 4-I, AM235 .W46 2008 + (YCBA)

Alice Winchester, English Conversation Pieces from the Mellon Collection, Antiques, vol. 83, April 1963, p. 447, NK1125 A3 v. 83 OVERSIZE (HAAS)

Yale University Art Gallery, Painting in England, 1700-1850, from the collection of Mr. and Mrs. Paul Mellon : [exhibition at] Yale University Art Gallery, April 15-June 20, 1965, , vol. 1, W. Clowes and sons, New Haven, 1965, p. 42 (v.1), no. 155, ND466 Y35 (YCBA)
Gallery Label:
Exhibited at the Free Society of Artists in 1766, this portrait shows George Romney’s brothers Peter and James deep in conversation. The objects around them suggest that they are discussing competing approaches to the art of painting. Peter, balancing a drawing board on his knee, points to the diagrams in front of him and seems to make a case for the geometrical principles of design. James holds under his right arm a portfolio and gestures with his left hand toward a classical bust—perhaps advocating that works of art should be informed by artistic precedent. By staging the debate in this way, the artist sought to announce his own theoretical sophistication, as well as that of his siblings. The brothers went on to live very different lives: James pursued a long career in the East India Company, but Peter, a portraitist, was troubled by debt and alcoholism, dying young. Gallery label for installation of YCBA collection, 2016
Link:
https://collections.britishart.yale.edu/catalog/tms:5037